View Full Version : Anyone tried the MIOX purifier yet????
TNRonin
02-17-2004, 05:30 PM
Hey this is Mitch, formerly known as Hawkeye. I was in the shop today and got a look at the MSR MIOX device. Pretty neat looking. Was wondering you all had an opportunity to try it out? Thanks.
Hey this is Mitch, formerly known as Hawkeye. I was in the shop today and got a look at the MSR MIOX device. Pretty neat looking. Was wondering you all had an opportunity to try it out? Thanks.
I looked at it the other day, but the dude started talking about doing something with salt and I lost interest. Still have to filter the crud out, sounds like a pain in the rear.
TNRonin
02-18-2004, 02:37 PM
I looked at it the other day, but the dude started talking about doing something with salt and I lost interest. Still have to filter the crud out, sounds like a pain in the rear.
The salt part doesn't bother me, it is part of the chemical process. But I'm not wanting anymore fiber in my system especially that kind. Then on top of that you are supposed to let the water sit for around 30 mins or something. I can also get around immediate water needs, but it just seems like a hassle.
iannguyen
02-20-2004, 04:16 PM
I got a chance to play around with one while working at REI 2 weekends ago, it's REALLY a pain in a rear to use alright, according to the instruction, you gotta go through 11 steps to purify water. And the dwell time is not that short, too. I'll be dead of thirst by then.
stoked
02-22-2004, 07:20 AM
A lot of guys are going chemical instead of filters, seems like a big thing now. I got a water bottle with a filter in it for $40. No waiting, no pumping, nothing. I was never very hip to the Sweetwater or Katadyn water bottle filters since they were only good for 20 gallons before you have to replace the filter, waste of $40 bucks! But then my wife told me about this company, www.wellnesswaterinv.com , they sell a Sport Bottle with a filter for the same price but lasts for 200 gallons. I checked it out and it is for real. Now I use the bottle everywhere. It has ceramic filter, carbon filter, and five other layers that mineralize and make the water taste really good. Anyway, check it out I ordered online and it works great.
rickklug
02-23-2004, 07:14 AM
I got a chance to play around with one while working at REI 2 weekends ago, it's REALLY a pain in a rear to use alright, according to the instruction, you gotta go through 11 steps to purify water. And the dwell time is not that short, too. I'll be dead of thirst by then.
Ian,
I work for MSR, and if your store doesn't have a clinic from us scheduled for the near future, you can call us at 800-531-9531 while you are at work, and one of our technical reps can go through the process with you. It would be a stretch for me to think of 11 distinct steps to go through, although I guess if you counted things like unscrewing the cap as a single step, and started without the salt chamber loaded you could make a case for it. Basically you are adding water, shaking it, pushing a button, pouring it into your water bottle. It takes about 15 seconds total. You can do this for up to a gallon per 15 seconds, so it is particularly good for large quantities of water.
With regards to dwell time, the mixed oxidant solution from the miox is the most effective chemical water disinfectant being sold. The is no chemical treatment being sold that can claim faster then 4 hours for Crypto. I personally use mechanical filtration because I hate to wait, but many people are willing to use chemical due to fears of viruses, or weight considerations.
Thanks
Rick Klug
Cascade Designs
Sales Support
iannguyen
02-23-2004, 01:38 PM
Rick,
Actually I Am Anxious To Know More About It, As A Matter Of Fact, We Do Have An Event Called "outdoor Academy" Coming Up In So. Cal., I Will Be There.
losloslos
03-15-2004, 10:41 AM
Re: previous comments about "too complicated"...wow, it seems simple:
"Pour water, scoop salt, close cap, push button, wait 15 secs, pour".
What I care the most about is the effectiveness. Oxygen is bad news
for bad bugs, but Chlorine is death. The next I really care about is
"consumables availability"...there is a rechargeable version of the
battery it takes, and salt is one of the most basic chemicals on the
planet...that's much better than a filter, cartridge or some pellet/tablet
I will have to mail order.
Next is an operational issue: you're walking along, and you find a
source of water...you A) run your magic MIOX pen 8 times (one pen,
three or four minutes) and you and your three buddies have two Nalgene
bottles full of water "dying" and you're off walking again, or B) you
and your three buddies break out four pump-type filters, and you all
start pumping. It takes me 72-80 pumps to fill one nalgene with my
MSR works filter setup, and that's not even getting out virus monsters.
Just being able to scoop out of a cow pond, do the magic pen trick,
and split is amazing. Think of the race potential.
Besides, where I live, its dangerous to linger at the water's edge for long.
(IMHO, I'd rather filter and then run the pen if I had time, just to get
the big particles of crapola out etc. and then kill the water).
I'm using my REI refund check to buy one of these puppies.
Cheers!
Greg.
ND Sol
03-16-2004, 08:00 AM
I am currently testing one and it will have some good applications. I think that it will be better than other chemical treatments. It is pretty easy to use, though I'm not sure that I like to use the chemical strips all the time.
I do like my Safewater Anywhere inline filter (no longer made) for being able to scoop and start drinking without waiting or other having other solids in the filtered water.
I have heard (but have yet to try) that using alum will settle the solids in the water to the bottom and from there you can have cleaner water.
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